By Jose Carreno, Thomas Culora, Captain George Galdorisi, U.S. Navy (Retired), and Thomas Hone
The commander of U.S. Air Forces in Europe (left), General Roger A. Brady, welcomes the commander of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, Admiral James Stavridis, on 10 November 2009 at Ramstein Air Base in Germany. As a Navy commander 17 years earlier, Stavridis envisioned "an Integrated Strike Force," suggesting the AirSea Battle Concept (ASBC) isn't really new.
A good early example of integrating sea and air forces took place in the North Atlantic in 1943, when very-long-range B-24 Liberator aircraft began covering Allied convoys operating in the "air gap" between Greenland and the limited radius of North America-based patrol aircraft. Today's "salient question," the authors ask, is how does such cooperation create efficiency and synergy?
An effective Army-Navy air-sea campaign also worked in 1944, supporting Navy and Marine Corps amphibious forces in their invasion of targets around the Philippines. Here, infantry landing craft hug the beach at Morotai to protect landing troops, as fires rage farther ashore. Aircraft flying from this and other islands were able to penetrate Japanese defenses.
Admiral Robert Willard, Commander, U.S. Pacific Command (left), meets on 4 June with Assistant Secretary of Defense Robert Sher (center) and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates at the Asia Security Summit in Singapore. According to Admiral Willard, "Elements of China's military modernization appear designed to challenge our freedom of action in the region." This is one trend that demands a new focus on the ASBC.
The Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments says ASBC proponents must determine "whether the concept would help to restore and sustain a stable military balance in the Western Pacific." Such regional stability was the order of the day on 7 May, when this Air Force F-16 deployed to the Republic of Korea from Misawa Air Base, Japan.
One of the highest-powered leaders to "put his imprint on the concept" is Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen, who noted during his commencement and commissioning address at the U.S. Air Force Academy this year that it "is a prime example of how we need to keep breaking down stovepipes."



The Navy-Air Force AirSea Battle Concept (ASBC), modeled after the Army-Air Force Air Land Battle Doctrine of a previous generation, has been heralded by some as the answer to compelling strategic and operational challenges facing the U.S. military today. But is this really a new strategy And old or new, will it help the United States deal with compelling world-wide issues
Understanding where we have been may provide insight into where we can go and what we can accomplish with this concept. It may also prepare the Navy and Air Force for some of the likely as well as unintended consequences this concept may create.
Writing in a National Defense University National War College publication in 1992, then-Commander James Stavridis stated: "We need an air sea battle concept centered on an immediately deployable, highly capable, and fully integrated forcean Integrated Strike Force."1 As this quoteby now-Admiral Stavridis, the current Supreme Allied Commander Europesuggests, neither the term "AirSea Battle Concept" nor the concept itself is brand new. Rather, this integration of sea and air forces has roots that extend back over a half-century.
The first useful example of an ASBC occurred during the Battle of the Atlantic campaign to defeat German U-boats. By January 1943, more than 100 submarines were prowling the Atlantic Ocean. Their most effective hunting ground was in the so-called "air gap" between the southern tip of Greenland and the longest range of patrol aircraft based in North America. In this area, convoys relied on their own surface escorts for protection.
Previously, Atlantic convoys had often been routed around U-boats waiting to ambush them by using intelligence based on ULTRA decrypts of intercepted German radio communications. But before the Allies could effectively pinpoint the locations of the U-boats using ULTRA, for three weeks in March 1943 wolf packs operating mostly in the air gap sank more than 20 percent of all Allied shipping plying the North Atlantic. During this same month British, Canadian, and American forces responsible for countering the U-boat threat put a plan in place to allocate a small force of very-long-range B-24 Liberator aircraft to cover the gap.
When the B-24s and aircraft from the newly assigned escort carriers started covering convoys, the advantage tipped in favor of the Allies. In May 1943, the German Navy lost 47 U-boats in the North Atlantic. When this precursory ASBC was expanded in October 1943 to include long-range Allied patrol aircraft operating from the Azores, U-boats were at greater risk over even larger areas of the Atlantic.
In this long campaign, British, Canadian, and U.S. forces considered and implemented a number of other coordinated air-sea battle tactics, including: bombing the U-boat bases on the French coast; ambushing U-boats transiting the Bay of Biscay from the air; targeting the yards where they were built; and reinforcing surface convoy escorts with land-based blimps and seaplanes.
All of these efforts were part of an extended air-sea battle of attrition, where Allied air and naval units worked together to punch through an anti-access, area-denial envelope that German naval forces tried to impose on the North Atlantic sea lanes. Over the course of that long campaign, naval and air officers developed means of cooperation and coordinationespecially of air assetsthat prevailed. But it is important to understand that the Navy, by itself, was able then and is capable now to conduct an air-sea battle. The salient question is, to what extent did and does cooperation either make U.S. forces more efficient or create real synergy
Another useful illustration is the effective air-sea campaign waged in and around the Philippines in late 1944 by U.S. Army and Navy aircraft and Navy and Marine Corps amphibious forces. U.S carrier task forces and U.S. Army long-range, land-based air forces struck distant Japanese bases and made it difficult for the Japanese to reinforce their air assets in the Philippines. Moreover, the 7th Fleet escort carriers directly under General Douglas MacArthur's command provided fighter and attack support in a display of real integration.
The key factorwell understood by both Army and Navy plannerswas the critical role long-range, land-based aviation had in expanding the offensive air envelope under which amphibious forces operated. Accordingly, the Army and Navy assaulted the islands of Biak and Morotai before moving on to Leyte because air units flying from those islands were crucial to the penetration of Japanese defenses in the Philippines.
Thus, Navy and Army air assets complemented each other to accomplish critical operational tasks to support campaign victories in both the Atlantic and Pacific theaters during World War II. The precedent had been set, crucial lessons learned, and the power and synergy of the combined land- and sea-based air forces established.
Earlier this year, Todd Harrison wrote the following in The New Guns Versus Butter Debate, published by the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (CSBA): "The fiscal reality is that in a flat or declining budgetary environment, [the DOD] cannot continue to do both [fund personnel accounts as well as acquisition accounts] to the same extent it does today."2
Throughout the Cold War, the potential fight on the plains of Europe dominated U.S. strategic thinking. The military element of this strategy, primarily carried out by the Army and Air Force, had by the 1980s evolved into what became known as the AirLand Battle Doctrine. The doctrine led to new operational concepts that recognized an emerging threat based on Soviet numerical superiority coupled with a narrowing technological gap. A memorandum cosigned by the Army and Air Force chiefs outlined steps to achieve procurement and operational synergies to restore conventional warfighting capabilities after the Vietnam War.
But for nearly a decade after the collapse of the Soviet Union, U.S. military-strategic planners had little motivation to develop a broad fighting doctrine, and the services had even less incentive to collaborate.
The one notable exception to this came during Operation Desert Storm. But in that case, the opposing air and sea forces were minimal and the core doctrine only tangentially employed. By the early 1990s, analysis by the Pentagon's Office of Net Assessment began to examine whether a "dramatic shift in the character of military competitions was underway." Their prescient conclusion now resonates as they highlighted the real possibility of the rise of potential challenge from a "peer competitor" (i.e., China) and a "second order challenge from a non-peer' competitor" (i.e., Iran).3
Pentagon strategists examining the changing nature of warfare were given new impetus by the congressionally mandated National Defense Panel (NDP) 1997 report's conclusion that "The United States must radically alter' the way in which its military projects power."4 However, this momentum slowed as the attacks of 9/11 dramatically changed the focus of the U.S. military to the exigencies of a war on terrorism.
By the end of the first decade of the 21st century several trends converged that demanded a new focus on an ASBC. One was the Obama administration's shift in emphasis away from the war on terrorism and its decision to draw down the U.S. commitment to Iraq and Afghanistan on a finite timeline. A second was the startlingly rapid rise of China over this decade. As the head of Pacific Command, Admiral Robert Willard, has noted, "Elements of China's military modernization appear designed to challenge our freedom of action in the region."5 And a third was the unanticipated economic recession faced by the United States.
On the heels of the deepest economic crisis since the 1930s, and with the federal budget deficit running in excess of $1.5 trillion in Fiscal Year 2010, the age-old "guns versus butter" debate has brought into sharper focus the consistent theme that the U.S. military may not have the strategic assets needed to deter, and if necessary prevail, against a high-end peer competitor like China. A key assumption underpinning the ASBC is that without better coordination between and among the U.S. military services, especially the Navy and the Air Force, this outcome is all but guaranteed. Moreover, the concept will have limited or no effect unless these joint air and naval planners tie actual operational requirements to specific capabilities.
Faced with a rising threat of peer and near-peer competitors with alarming anti-access/area-denial capabilitiesas well as long-term budget pressuresthe ASBC can be viewed as greater than an attempt to do more with less. Rather, it is a return to historical precedents when, like today, compelling strategic and operational realities forced U.S. naval and air forces to work together in a truly integrated fashion to project power against a determined foe. But a skeptic who doubts the ability of the current procurement system to respond in a meaningful way to this rising challenge may opine that the ASBC will only result in a rearrangement of existing doctrine and systems and not be a truly adaptive and dynamic approach.
Also earlier this year, the CSBA published Air Sea Battle: A Point of Departure Operational Concept, which stated: "The most important question proponents of the AirSea Battle Concept must answer is whether the concept would help to restore and sustain a stable military balance in the Western Pacific."6
At the request of Secretary of Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Gary Roughead and Air Force Chief of Staff General Norton Schwartz directed an effort to explore how U.S air and naval forces could combine and integrate their capabilities to confront increasingly complex threats to U.S. freedom of action.7
To gain a global perspective, this joint team interviewed each U.S. combatant commander to understand the scope of threats they are likely to face over the next 10 to 20 years, particularly at the "high-end of warfare." Government officials have been keen to point out that the ASBC is not aimed at any particular country or region. But ultimately, the goal is to identify how combined Air Force and Navy capabilities can address these threats.8
After months of teasers and speculation in defense journals and conferences, the release of the 2010 Quadrennial Defense Review (QDR) provided greater clarity on the scope and raison d'être behind this concept. As part of its guidance to rebalance the force, the QDR directed the development of the air-sea battle concept to:
[Defeat] adversaries across the range of military operations, including adversaries equipped with sophisticated anti-access and area denial capabilities. The concept will address how air and naval forces will integrate capabilities across all operational domainsair, sea, land, space, and cyberspaceto counter growing challenges to U.S. freedom of action.9
Independent analysts have been less reticent in naming specific regional adversaries. Two studies by the CSBA highlight the efforts of China and Iran as catalysts behind the concept. As the first of these studies lays out, both nations are investing in capabilities to "raise precipitously over timeand perhaps prohibitivelythe cost to the United States of projecting power into two areas of vital interest: the Western Pacific and the Persian Gulf."10 By adopting anti-access/area-denial capabilities, these potential adversaries seek to deny U.S forces the sanctuary of forward bases, hold aircraft carriers and their air wings at risk, and cripple U.S. battle networks. In other words, strike at the weak point of U.S. power-projection capability. To be effective, the ASBC must change that through a combination of capabilities and operational warfighting. If it doesn't, adversaries will still be able to deny access to U.S. forces.
In its second study, AirSea Battle: A Point-of-Departure Operational Concept, CSBA analyzes possible options to counter the anti-access/area-denial (A2/AD) threat posed by the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA). First and foremost, CSBA argues, the AirSea Battle Concept should help "set the conditions" to retain a favorable military balance in the Western Pacific.11 By creating credible capabilities to defeat A2/AD threats, the United States can enhance stability in the Western Pacific and lower the possibility of escalation by deterring inclinations to challenge the United States or coerce regional allies.12
The precise nature of the ASBC will not be known until Pentagon planners complete their work. But based on the broad outlines of the CSBA's Point-of-Departure Operational Concept study, it is likely that in the initial stages of hostilities the United States would need to withstand an initial attack and limit damage to U.S. and allied forces while executing a blinding campaign against the PLA battle networks. However, the need to withstand an initial attack is a potential flaw in the CSBA plan. Prudence and technical reality would suggest that the ASBC should find a way to make U.S. forces less visible and targetable while retaining the ability to be forward with credible combat power. Being less visible and targetable raises the risk of initiating a first strike and contributes to deterring a potential foe.
Failing deterrence, the ASBC assumes that a conflict with China would involve a protracted campaign where U.S-led forces would then sustain and exploit the initiative in various domains, conduct distant blockade operations against ships bound for China, maintain operational logistics, and ramp up industrial production of needed hardware, especially precision-guided munitions. However, it is important to note that in a shorter (and perhaps more likely) conflict, blockade, logistics, and procurement will have minimal impact on the outcome.
But it is the ways Navy and Air Force assets would provide mutual support in this campaign that can make the ASBC, if it evolves in a manner that many strategic thinkers believe it should, a modern-day equivalent of some of the innovative strategies and tactics employed by U.S. air and sea forces in World War II. If the ASBC evolves as the CSBA study suggests, Navy and Air Force planners may evolve a strategy in which:
The evidence also suggests that this ASBC will, indeed, gain traction throughout the U.S. military. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen has already put his imprint on the concept. Speaking at the U.S. Air Force Academy graduation and commissioning ceremony earlier this year he noted, "[The ASBC] is a prime example of how we need to keep breaking down stovepipes between services, between federal agencies, and even between nations."14
According to CSBA's study, AirSea Battle: A Point-of- Departure Operational Concept, "The Defense Department's Program of Record forces and current concepts of operations do not accord sufficient weight to the capabilities needed to successfully execute an AirSea Battle campaign."15
However the elements outlined here combine to form a coherent ASBC, myriad strategic, institutional, and programmatic implications, both understood and unintentional, will arise. These will vary depending on the concepts envisioned and the course adopted. A sampling of a few that may immediately surface include:
Naming NamesU.S. policy toward China has been centered on managing the "peaceful rise" of this emerging peer competitor across a broad range of issues. Moreover, the United States has been careful not to paint China as a threat or engage in activities that could lead to an arms race. This may be changing, and the development of the ASBC may contribute to this change.
By actively and publicly planning, training, and equipping a joint air-sea force to confront even something as benignly described as a "pacing threat," the United States is implicitly challenging China's military influence in Asia. It is one thing for the independent thinkers at CSBA to issue a set of reports and conceptual papers on the ASBC; it is quite another for Navy and Air Force staffs to collaborate on a comprehensive approach to counter PLA systems, doctrine, and operational plans.
ReassuranceA growing perception on the part of U.S. allies and potential partners in the region is that American naval and air forces have not kept pace with expanding Chinese military capabilities.
The premise of the ASBC in fact rests on this trend. With this perception, countries have started to rethink their political, economic, and military strategies to ensure their continued security and independence as U.S. will, capacity, and capability wane. A serious, sustained commitment to ASBC will reinforce credible U.S. combat power and will assuage and persuade both friend and foe of America's commitment to the region. However, failure to fully embrace and enact the ASBC could have opposite and unforeseeable strategic consequences.
Dispersed BasingA critical implied task in articulating the operational construct of the ASBC will be to find ways to reduce risk to both land and sea air bases, to minimize the impact of early salvo strikes, and to persist in any protracted war longer than a couple of weeks. Beyond extensive hardening and rapid runway repair, dispersal may emerge as an effective operational approach likely to be considered.
But dispersal is not without its challenges. Domestic political objections in countries where the United States will desire multiple basing options, including the creative approaches of the Cold War such as highway-runways and concealed operating bases for vertical short-takeoff and landing aircraft, will be high. Even in countries where the United States currently has basing rights, such as Japan, the political challenges will be immense. Moreover, countries that sign on to this plan know they are certain targets and may calculate that the costs of allowing this basing plan outweigh the benefits. And to be truly effective, maintenance, logistics, and personnel must be made mobile to support this scheme, which rapidly becomes a very expensive approach that might best be tackled another way.
Beyond Purple to Cobalt BlueAnother key to the success of the ASBC will be institutionalizing a close collaborative relationship between the Navy and Air Force beyond the initial exhilaration of the ASBC's maiden release. The model for this is the 1986 Goldwater-Nichols Act that forced cooperation among all the services using clear incentives tied to promotion of the officer corps. For the ASBC to sustain a protracted pattern of cooperation, an institutionalized cadre of officers, planners, and procurement specialists must be put in place. Otherwise, the services will fall back into their familiar patterns of competition.
Where the Family ShopsIt is too early to tell what impact the ASBC will have on procurement and the focus of the industrial base. If the plan calls for a refinement of legacy systems, then the impact could be light. But if the ASBC introduces a radical approach, the impact could be quite large, even if this change is more evolutionary than revolutionary. This would be good news for some and troubling news for others.
The ASBC is as much about developing credible combat power and the military doctrine to support it as it is about long-term competition. Thus, any concept must analyze the holistic impact and strategic costs to sustain and win the long-term competition with any peer or near-peer state. While the adjustments to doctrine, operational plans, and system acquisition resulting from the ASBC are yet unknown, ultimately the ASBC must be more than simply a sharing of assets or cooperation for its own sake. It must integrate some unique set of capabilities from both services to create real synergistic effects that neither service can accomplish individually.
1. CDR James Stavridis, USN, A New Air Sea Battle Concept: Integrated Strike Forces (Washington D.C.: National Defense University National War College, 1992), p. 3.
2. Todd Harrison, The New Guns Versus Butter Debate, (Washington, D.C.: Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, 2010), p.10.
3. Andrew Krepinevich, Why AirSea Battle (Washington, D.C.: Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, 2010), p. 8.
4. National Defense Panel, Transforming Defense (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1997), pp. 12-13.
5. ADM Robert Willard, prepared statement before the House Armed Services Committee on U.S. Pacific Command Posture, 23 March 2010.
6. Jan Van Tol, et. al., AirSea Battle: A Point-of-Departure Operational Concept (Washington, D.C.: Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment, 2010), p. 95.
7. Christopher Cavas, "USAF, U.S. Navy to Expand Cooperation," Defense News, 9 November 2009. See also: Andrew Krepinevich, Why AirSea Battle, p. 1.
8. Cavas, "USAF, U.S. Navy to Expand Cooperation."
9. Department of Defense, Quadrennial Defense Review Report (Washington, D.C.: Department of Defense, 2010), p. 55.
10. Krepinevich, Why AirSea Battle, p. 7.
11. Van Tol, et. al., Battle: A Point of Departure Operational Concept, p. ix.
12. Ibid., p. 18.
13. Ibid., p. 95.
14. Donna Miles, "Defense Leaders Laud Air-Sea Battle Concept Initiative," American Forces Press Service, 7 June 2010.
15. Van Tol, et. al., AirSea Battle: A Point-of-Departure Operational Concept, p. 81.
Mr. Carreno is the head of the Strategic and Business Planning Branch at SPAWAR Systems Center Pacific, and has written previously for Proceedings.
Professor Culora is the chairman of the Warfare Analysis and Research Department at the Naval War College. He is a retired Navy captain who commanded both HSL-47 and the USS Boxer (LHD-4) and was a fellow at both Harvard University and the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.
Captain Galdorisi is director of the Corporate Strategy Group at SPAWAR Systems Center Pacific. His latest book is Leave No Man Behind: the Saga of Combat Search and Rescue (MBI Publishing Co., 2009).
Mr. Hone is a former special assistant to the commander of the Naval Air Systems Command, co-author of American & British Aircraft Carrier Development, 1919-1941 (Naval Institute Press, 1999), and a professor at the Naval War College.
Air Sea
After reading about this, I imagine a better structure for our military. We completely get rid of our current air force, and replace it with three new air forces. One of them would be integrated with the Navy kind of like the Marines, with the purpose of supporting the Navy and Marines. The second would be integrated with the Army to support the Army, similarly. And the third would be seamlessly connected to both of the others, supporting Army and Navy both, doing anything that can serve both.
Of course it can't be that way, but it's pleasant to imagine.
This is pretty crazy
There must be something missing in this analysis about Chinese reaction, to think that conventional attacks can be made on Mainland China from US forces without risking escalation to nuclear attack, perhaps on a carrier battlegroup. We are not talking about some war game on a PC where the well commanded and technologically advanced side wins. Words used like "Rollback" is very dangerous. It implies that the author believes that there will be successive rounds of conventional exchanges between red and blue forces. I would surmise that once the first bomb strikes Mainland, that will be the last round of the conventional exchanges.
Another consideration would be the damage done to the positive image the US enjoys with many educated young Chinese people, who look forward to an opportunity to live in the West, raise their children (plural) in America. Such a move, to attack their motherland, would instantly transform those near friends into instant enemies, despite what their misgivings may have been towards their government before we bombed them.
Most dangerously, if there are officers in the USN who belief China will take bombs dropped on the Mainland without them seriously considering nuking a carrier or a Marine base on Okinawa, then I think we are at a Khrushchev (Cuba) or a MacArthur (Yalu) moment, where we may misjudge the other side's intentions with potentially catastrophic consequences, due to not having enough dialogue with them. A much more reasoned article was the one by Lt. Cmdr. Harper analyzing the economic cost to every side involved if we even got close to a shooting war.
This is nuts. It shows we need more, not fewer, liaison exchanges with the Chinese where the exchange officers mix with their counterparts and the regular people.
No longer playing Harpoon,
Beaker2
Sounds like you’ve bought in
Sounds like you’ve bought in to the PRC’s psychological warfare campaign. PLA leaders would like to plant the idea of nuclear attack into the minds of the American populace (and academia) in order to sow fear and influence policy. The PRC has a No First Use policy and the use of nuclear weapons by the PRC would change the military landscape in Asia in a way which would be extremely detrimental to China’s interests. If the PLA has the option of using ballistic missile against bases in Okinawa (sovereign Japanese territory) then the US military is right to consider responses against military targets on China’s coast.
As for educated young Chinese people; they should be considering their own country’s actions in claiming islands which belong to the Philippines and Vietnam. Besides, the small number of young Chinese who like the West and vastly outnumbered by the nationalistic xenophobes who hate America, Japan and the West.
Towards better understanding how Communists think, and why
This may seem at first to be off topic, but if you see that the same kinds of connected people (through nepotism) who end up as command officers in the PLA are also in charge in industry within present day China, you will gain an appreciation of the drivers which affect how their decisions are often made. This is to better understand the mindset of people who may one day make decisions on nuking a CVBG.
"Zippered streets" was a discussion on why Chinese municipal governing bodies seem to not communicate with each other while repeatedly tearing up streets to install/repair infrastructures.
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To James Fallows of "The Atlantic" blog in private email.
SOE = State Owned Enterprise (automotive in my case)
"good of the many" may be replaced here with "consequences of nuking CVBG"
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I've been amused by the contributions from readers on "zippered streets". So, here, I offer some zippered insights. By this I mean, from going with the original J20 "Hu didn't know about the test flight" ramifications between civilian control of the PLA-AF etc bla, to simply innocuous poor inter-department communication, I offer some insights back to less benign causal effects for "zippered streets" from my experience at an SOE working with party members looking to move up a very flat pyramid. The "good of the many" in such a system is a mere tertiary or quaternary consideration, especially if one does not live on that zippered street.
Annual bonuses to managers, vice mgrs, directors and vice directors are based on completion of certain discrete tasks, on time and with no problems. Bonuses can be considered a short term grade to rate the career potential/development of an up and coming (or to one who thinks he/she has a chance at being one) party member. The incentive system is skewed towards cheating in order to present a trouble-free, on time record so as to
1. collect on a large bonus; sometimes several times the very low base salary. (ex. CEO of big car company being 550,000 rmb, as one listed example)
2. get a good grade for this semester so young Wang Li can get into an advanced placement track.
A similar incentive program for US-based airlines exists, also self reported : )
This being the system, there is very little consideration for what the fiber-optics cable ministry does to the pavement next week, if MY bonus is on the line for ME to complete MY portion of the sewer replacement on time and trouble free. Two fields on a computer screen, "TIME FINISHED (flexibly defined)" and "Open Incidents Reported (often based on self closure)", - is believed to affect one's future. It is good not to know what the fiber optics ministry is doing, or you may have to answer to some irrelevant complaint from the residents of the zippered street later (how dare these people raise the issue?).
Another consideration for those who thrive is that they do not sublimate to an equal. Two party members at the director level, one in charge of fuel systems, the other in charge of suspensions system, has an interference issue, like maybe a mere 100 mm on a car design. Their little system engineers (VSE) (up and coming young party members) will not budge or it could be a sign that they sublimated to the other system engineer. This would cause (in their minds) their director to lose face. The directors support their little system engineers, so as not to lose face (in their minds), being the one who allowed reduced fuel range in order to allow a better ride. The suspension director also is met with similar pressure, to not bow to fuel range, and give up a better ride. Miller Lite commercial. As it becomes clear, the result on the overall car design became a tertiary consideration to the existing incentive structure. Eventually, the program was scrapped due to this and other "insurmountable" conflicts, but after squandering about 3 billion rmb and 12 months. The directors and their VSE's suffered no damage. This, is why I am not too overly concerned about the boxing Panda's in the NMA videos. The perverse system of check and balance does a fine job to cancel each other out. I just won't ride in one of their home designed planes, for the same reason.
I hope that these detailed insights will help your understanding.
Not going to comment on
Not going to comment on specifics about courses of action that may/will escalate to nuclear confrontation with China. But we might at the very least observe that China is not the Cold War USSR, and the Western Pacific is not the Polish corridor.
That aside, claims that China will simply risk nuclear escalation in response to conventional strikes on the mainland strikes one as somewhat alarmist, regardless of what quotes by Chinese military officials can be mustered from open press. The calculus for nuclear employment is far from merely being as simple as, "We have more people than the US."
Many good books have been written on strategy in the nuclear and missile age; at least some of those titles should be read before assuming what China's nuclear policy will be in a confrontation with the US -- a conflict that Chinese authors consistently paint as one in which China will be inferior, and will have to somehow conventionally forestall the superior military forces of the US.
So far as good articles to read in conjunction with this one (and as an alternative to LCDR Harper's article, which I'd argue was neither revolutionary nor necessarily applicable to military strategy), I'd suggest AirSea Battle Must Not Work Alone by Dr. Milan Vego.
http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2011-07/airsea-battle-must-not...
Saving face and pressures on the Chinese leadership
Hello D&D,
I read and appreciated your analysis over at Lt. Cmdr. Harper's article. I have since posted my further analysis of both your and others POVs. Hopefully, you will have the time to read my post there and provide feedback. It will be appreciated.
I take the liberty to copy this snippet from my own post there:
"If a US bomb should fall on the Mainland, the leadership in charge would be under tremendous pressure to retaliate in kind. Indeed, his hold on power would be very much in question if he fails to retaliate in kind. However, just what would satisfy a retaliation in kind? "
I did not base my analysis upon 1950's and 1960's era writings on nuclear warfare from long dead PLA generals. We all understand that our current generation of potential adversaries are less from the ignorant peasant classes where the Cold War era PLA generals were picked from. Instead, we are facing a more professional, well educated staff, which is a good development. To well educated people, the prospects of a nuclear exchange is handled more carefully. But, even our own military leaders in recent times, and in Cold War times, have often resorted prematurely to using nuclear options on the battlefield, when they lost sight of the big picture. Consideration of nuclear bunker busters during the 2000's, Schwarzkopf's request to use a disruptive pre-invasion blast over Iraq, the thought of artillery fired 20 ktn warheads as just large shells; these were our own military's ideas of what options were available to them in times of stopping overwhelming odds. The PLA will be faced with similar odds if conventionally coming up against our vastly technologically superior aircraft, ships and missiles. They are not going to flail at us with their inferior forces while we rollback their defenses so we can take out their air defenses. China is not Iraq.
There must be an understanding of the way present Chinese society works within the Communist system. The future would be very bleak for a PLA command officer who got rolled back, even by clearly superior forces. He/she would not be thinking of the big picture. Rather, the way the Chinese mindset are, they will be thinking very small, about their own situation a week from now. Either they would be shot, or imprisoned, however unfairly, all privileges gone. With that in mind, they will do what they can to avoid being rolled back. So, if they have a bigger gun which has not yet been used, they might as well use it. But, in that case, they may not miss our CVBG with a glancing blow on purpose, but aim to do the maximum damage. What would the American "retaliation in kind" be if we took 12000 casualties at sea and the loss of a CVBG? I think that is a decision we should aim to avoid. Next thing you know, we are trading cities the old fashioned way, and no one wins in that case.
Beaker2
All good points. And I
All good points. And I definitely appreciate that your focus is staying inside the confines of military strategy. Nuclear strategy is a tough beast to tackle, no doubt. The specifics of which rightly remain reserved for other venues.
The question any PLA officer and CMC/PSC member, to include from the SAC which reportedly has the COG over their strategic forces, will necessarily have to answer is what kind of conflict really is worth nuclear escalation. Does a strike on the mainland really qualify? A strike isn't the same thing as an invasion -- and invading China is something just about any country would be very loathe to do due to China's strategic depth. Lacking an invasion, does China really calculate they should use nukes? To state they'll just respond to a strike on the mainland with nukes doesn't fully explain the US strategic triad's impact on PRC nuke calculus -- from their own perspective.
On that point, though, given the amount of think tanks and org's culling through Chinese writings, musings, and doctrine on many issues, as well as what I've personally seen/read, it seems a tall order to try to clarify their official stances on many things. What really qualifies as official doctrine vs PR, lobbying by industry, or meandering meditations by officers vying for a promotion? To claim to know their position on many strategic issues comes across as a bit of a grandiose position to take, and difficult to defend.
China certainly isn't Iraq. But neither are they the Cold War USSR nor Pakistan. We should be careful what corner we paint them into.
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This is all fascinating. I've never served in the Navy, and this is new to me.
It sounds like the USA should not start an aggressive war with China, unless we can destroy their nukes first. We do not want to invade and occupy China. So the war will not be over until they agree it's over. There's no obvious aggressive goal we could have that would be worth a perpetual war.
So we only need to prepare for war in which China attacks us or our allies. Many ways this is more pleasant because after all our preparations for such a war, China probably will not attack so we never find out how well we did. We can assume that whatever we did was both necessary and sufficient.
And in that case, we beat China back and get them to accept the status quo. When they see they are not strong enough to win whatever they wanted to win, they agree to quit trying. End of war,. Sweet.
People generally claim that China has around 250 nukes, all for deterrence. Would they give control of one of those to a forward commander who faces awful personal consequences if he loses? Probably not. On the other hand, we can't be sure what they'd do if they got startled.
Then there's the chance a war might break out by accident, one that nobody wanted and for which nobody has thought of any exit. It would be a good idea to think about how to end a war like that. You don't want to quit when the other guy thinks he's ahead, but he doesn't want to quit when he thinks you think you're ahead. That's worth a lot of careful planning just in case it happens.
It seems strange to me to fight a war where you don't dare try for victory, but instead you must hope for a mutually-acceptable endpoint. But it looks like that's what you have with China.
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I wanted to thank you for this article, well documented, depp, and we see that you really know the subject ! I think naval strategy is always moving on and i like the idea of cooperation with the Aiforce to be more efficient on the field.
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I thought the different services of the armed forces were always supposed to cooperate in such a manner?
This article also assumes that nuclear weapons will not be used in any peer to peer conflict, ie China. With China so far away and isolated from the majority of US allies, plus its numerical superiority, it is highly unlikely the President of the US would resist the use of nuclear weapons in a confrontation with China. Plus China has no resources the US needs. I think the cheapest way to deter aggression from China is to increase the number of tactical nuclear weapons deployed in the Pacific.
I think this concept may be more useful with non-peer competitors like Iran, where nuclear weapons would be out of the question due to the oil there.
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Thank you for this fascinating article. There is so much to learn here and I hope that this is shared with those who are not only interested in the military but need to learn a little bit about it's history.
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I agree the article is truly amazing , thanks Robert .
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